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General Meeting 4-APR-98

Name: First General Meeting, 1st Quarter

Time: 2000 GMT-2300 GMT

Date: SAT 4-APR-98

General: RTEMS, 1Q1998, JFA

Location: www.jos.org/chat

Alternate: IRC #jos EFNET? (if down)

Schedule: 20:00 GMT General chat, pre-discussion. 20:15 GMT 1Q1998 Summary, 20:30 GMT JOS/JFA Relationship 20:45 GMT JOS Kernel - RTEMS ? 21:00 GMT Free/Open Discussion

Attending:

• AndyMacDonald
• ClarkEvans
• adric (aka BenKnowles)
• weolopez
• StefanReich (briefly)
• ThomasnJan (briefly)
• MichaelNygard
• RobertFitzsimons
• WillyRoth
• andsh

(20:15)For further meetings:

• Give times in UTC, CET, EST, (Clark)
• Try and get chat logging working (Markus is already working on it)

1Q1998: Summary report

• New wiki, Source Server, Pretty Printer, Chat
• Two possible kernels explored RTEMS and OSKit
• RTEMS background explained by Clark

• JOS supports the JavaLobby and JFA but does not think they belong together.
• Clark states his belief that JFA will be hurt if kept a part of JL
• No one disagrees.

• Kaffe is discussed briefly. It needs serious hacking before it will be useful to us.
• Japhar is mentioned, but none present seem to know much about it.
• Clark will email an RTEMS summary out this week
• Japhar discussion should start on the kernel list.

• The idea of hacking Linux to provide a development platform is explored.
• This gives us a working platform to build off of now, so non kernel work can get started.
• Also discussed is an RTEMS based development platform, with Linux drivers
• JosDevelopmentPlatform is started to discuss such things.
• It looks like JOS will be using RTEMS for it's base.

• There is an existing port of Kaffe to RTEMS, but it needs some work still.
• JVM group needed, see JVMGroup

• A bootable jvm
• A license
• More applications or beans (browser?)
• support for non-awt classfiles (?)

• Clark will be a lot less accessible over the next two months as he works on a book about free software and free OSes. This will bring JOS some press when it is published, but it will keep him very busy for awhile.

Broke up about 21:45 or so.

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